1632 series reading order

Recommended reading order for the 1632 series
(aka the Ring of Fire series)

By Eric Flint
March 27, 2019

Whenever someone asks me “what’s the right order?” for reading the 1632 series, I’m always tempted to respond: “I have no idea. What’s the right order for studying the Thirty Years War? If you find it, apply that same method to the 1632 series.”

However, that would be a bit churlish—and when it comes down to it, authors depend upon the goodwill of their readers. So, as best I can, here goes.

The first book in the series, obviously, is 1632. That is the foundation novel for the entire series and the only one whose place in the sequence is definitely fixed.

Thereafter, you should read either the anthology titled Ring of Fire or the novel 1633, which I co-authored with David Weber. It really doesn’t matter that much which of these two volumes you read first, so long as you read them both before proceeding onward. That said, if I’m pinned against the wall and threatened with bodily harm, I’d recommend that you read Ring of Fire before you read 1633.

That’s because 1633 has a sequel which is so closely tied to it that the two volumes almost constitute one single huge novel. So, I suppose you’d do well to read them back to back. That sequel is 1634: The Baltic War, which I also co-authored with David Weber.

Once you’ve read those four books—to recapitulate, the three novels (1632, 1633 and 1634: The Baltic War) and the Ring of Fire anthology—you can now choose one of two major alternative ways of reading the series.

The first way, which I’ll call “spinal,” is to begin by reading all of the novels in what I will call the main line of the series. As of now, the main line consists of these seven novels:

1632
1633 (with David Weber)
1634: The Baltic War (with David Weber)
1635: The Eastern Front
1636: The Saxon Uprising
1636: The Ottoman Onslaught
1637: The Polish Maelstrom

All of these novels except the two I did with David Weber were written by me as the sole author. The next main line novel, whose working title is 1637: The Adriatic Decision, I will be writing with Chuck Gannon. (Dr. Charles E. Gannon, if you want to get formal about it.) That novel probably won’t come out until sometime in 2020, however, because there are one or two novels that have to be written first, in order to lay the basis for it.

I call this the “main line” of the Ring of Fire series for two reasons. First, because it’s in these seven novels that I depict most of the major political and military developments which have a tremendous impact on the entire complex of stories. Secondly, because these “main line” volumes focus on certain key characters in the series. Four of them, in particular: Mike Stearns and Rebecca Abrabanel, first and foremost, as well as Gretchen Richter and Jeff Higgins.

The other major alternative way to read the series is what I will call “comprehensive.” This approach ignores the special place of the main line novels and simply reads the series as an integral whole—i.e., reading each novel and anthology more or less in chronological sequence. (I’m referring to the chronology of the series itself, not the order in which the books were published. The two are by no means identical.)

The advantage to following the spinal way of reading the series is that it’s easier to follow since all of these novels are direct sequels to each other. You don’t have to deal with the complexity of reading all the branching stories at the same time. Once you’ve finished the main line novels, assuming you’re enjoying the series enough to want to continue, you can then go back and start reading the other books following the order I’ve laid out below.

The disadvantage to using the spinal method is that you’re going to run into spoilers. Most of the major political and military developments are depicted in the main line novels, but by no means all of them. So if spoilers really bother you, I’d recommend using the comprehensive approach.

All right. From here on, I’ll be laying out the comprehensive approach to the series. If you’ve decided to follow the spinal method, you can follow this same order of reading by just skipping the books you’ve already read.

Once you’ve read 1632, Ring of Fire, 1633 and 1634: The Baltic War, you will have a firm grasp of the basic framework of the series. From there, you can go in one of two directions: either read 1634: The Ram Rebellion or 1634: The Galileo Affair.

There are advantages and disadvantages either way. 1634: The Ram Rebellion is an oddball volume, which has some of the characteristics of an anthology and some of the characteristics of a novel. It’s perhaps a more challenging book to read than the Galileo volume, but it also has the virtue of being more closely tied to the main line books. Ram Rebellion is the first of several volumes which basically run parallel with the main line volumes but on what you might call a lower level of narrative. A more positive way of putting that is that these volumes depict the changes produced by the major developments in the main line novels, as those changes are seen by people who are much closer to the ground than the characters who figure so prominently in books like 1632, 1633, and 1634: The Baltic War.

Of course, the distinction is only approximate. There are plenty of characters in the main line novels—Thorsten Engler and Eric Krenz spring immediately to mind—who are every bit as “close to the ground” as any of the characters in 1634: The Ram Rebellion. And the major characters in the series will often appear in stories outside of the main line.

Whichever book you read first, I do recommend that you read both of them before you move on to 1634: The Bavarian Crisis. In a way, that’s too bad, because Bavarian Crisis is something of a direct sequel to 1634: The Baltic War. The problem with going immediately from Baltic War to Bavarian Crisis, however, is that there is a major political development portrayed at length and in great detail in 1634: The Galileo Affair which antedates the events portrayed in the Bavarian story.

Still, you could read any one of those three volumes—to remind you, these are 1634: The Ram Rebellion, 1634: The Galileo Affair and 1634: The Bavarian Crisis—in any order you choose. Just keep in mind that if you read the Bavarian book before the other two you will be getting at least one major development out of chronological sequence.

After those three books are read, you should read 1635: A Parcel of Rogues, which I co-authored with Andrew Dennis. That’s one of the two sequels to 1634: The Baltic War, the other one being 1635: The Eastern Front. The reason you should read Parcel of Rogues at this point is that most of it takes place in the year 1634.

Thereafter, again, it’s something of a toss-up between three more volumes: the second Ring of Fire anthology and the two novels, 1635: The Cannon Law and 1635: The Dreeson Incident. On balance, though, I’d recommend reading them in this order because you’ll get more in the way of a chronological sequence:

Ring of Fire II
1635: The Cannon Law
1635: The Dreeson Incident

          The time frame involved here is by no means rigidly sequential, and there are plenty of complexities involved. To name just one, my story in the second Ring of Fire anthology, the short novel “The Austro-Hungarian Connection,” is simultaneously a sequel to Virginia’s story in the same anthology, several stories in various issues of the Gazette—as well as my short novel in the first Ring of Fire anthology, The Wallenstein Gambit.

What can I say? It’s a messy world—as is the real one. Still and all, I think the reading order recommended above is certainly as good as any and probably the best.

We come now to Virginia DeMarce’s 1635: The Tangled Web. This collection of inter-related stories runs parallel to many of the episodes in 1635: The Dreeson Incident. This volume is also where the character of Tata who figures in Eastern Front and Saxon Uprising is first introduced in the series.

You should then backtrack a little and read 1635: The Papal Stakes, which is the direct sequel to 1635: The Cannon Law. And you could also read Anette Pedersen’s 1635: The Wars for the Rhine.

You can then go back to the “main line” of the series and read 1635: The Eastern Front and 1636: The Saxon Uprising. I strongly recommend reading them back to back. These two books were originally intended to be a single novel, which I wound up breaking in half because the story got too long. They read better in tandem.

Then, read Ring of Fire III. My story in that volume is directly connected to 1636: The Saxon Uprising and lays some of the basis for the sequel to that novel, 1636: The Ottoman Onslaught. After that, read 1636: The Kremlin Games. That novel isn’t closely related to any other novel in the series—with the exception of its own sequel—so you can read it almost any time after reading the first few volumes. While you’re at it, you may as well read the sequel, 1637: The Volga Rules. You’ll be a little out of sequence with the rest of the series, but it doesn’t matter because at this point the Russian story line still largely operates independently.

Thereafter, the series branches out even further and there are several books you should read. I’d recommend the following order, but in truth it doesn’t really matter all that much which order you follow in this stretch of the series:

1636: Commander Cantrell in the West Indies picks up on the adventures of Eddie Cantrell following the events depicted in 1634: The Baltic War.

1636: The Cardinal Virtues depicts the opening of the French civil war which was also produced by the events related in The Baltic War and which has been foreshadowed in a number of stories following that novel. 1636: The Vatican Sanction picks up the “Italian line” in the series, which follows the adventures of Sharon Nichols and Ruy Sanchez.

Iver Cooper’s 1636: Seas of Fortune takes place in the Far East and in the New World. The portion of it titled “Stretching Out” has a few spoilers to Commander Cantrell in the West Indies and vice versa, but nothing too important

1636: The Devil’s Opera takes place in Magdeburg and might have some spoilers if you haven’t read Saxon Uprising. My co-author on this novel, David Carrico, also has an e-book available titled 1635: Music and Murder which contains stories published in various anthologies that provide much of the background to The Devil’s Opera.

1636: The Viennese Waltz comes after Saxon Uprising in the sense that nothing in it will be spoiled by anything in Saxon Uprising but you might find out Mike’s whereabouts early if you read it first. On the other hand, the e-book 1636: The Barbie Consortium (the authors of which are Gorg Huff and Paula Goodlett) is a direct prequel to Viennese Waltz and should be read first if you want to be introduced to the young ladies dancing the Viennese Waltz.

1636: The Viennese Waltz is also one of the three immediate prequels to the next main line novel in the series, which is 1636: The Ottoman Onslaught. If you’re wondering, the other two immediate prequels are 1636: The Saxon Uprising and my short novel “Four Days on the Danube,” which was published in Ring of Fire III.

The next volumes you should look are these:

Ring of Fire IV (May, 2016). There are a number of stories in this volume written by different authors including David Brin. From the standpoint of the series’ reading order, however, probably the most important is my own story “Scarface.” This short novel serves simultaneously as a sequel to The Papal Stakes and The Dreeson Incident, in that the story depicts the further adventures of Harry Lefferts after Papal Stakes and Ron Stone and Missy Jenkins following The Dreeson Incident.

1636: The Chronicles of Dr. Gribbleflotz, by Kerryn Offord and Rick Boatright (August, 2016). As with The Devil’s Opera, this is a story set in the middle of the United States of Europe as it evolves. In this case, relating the adventures of a seventeenth century scholar—a descendant of the great Paracelsus—who becomes wealthy by translating the fuzzy and erroneous American notions of “chemistry” into the scientific precision of alchemy.

Then you should return to the main line of the series by reading, back to back, my two novels 1636: The Ottoman Onslaught (January, 2017) and 1637: The Polish Maelstrom (March, 2019).

Following those two, read two novels that are “outliers,” so to speak. Those are 1636: Mission to the Mughals (April, 2017) and 1636: The China Venture (forthcoming November, 2019). Keep in mind that the term “outliers” is always subject to modification in the Ring of Fire series. Right now, those stories taking place in (respectively) India and China don’t have much direct connection to the rest of the series. But it’s a small world in fiction just as it is in real life, so you never know what the future might bring.

That leaves the various issues of the Gazette, which are really hard to fit into any precise sequence. The truth is, you can read them pretty much any time you choose.

It would be well-nigh impossible for me to provide any usable framework for the eighty-two electronic issues of the magazine, so I will restrict myself simply to the eight volumes of the Gazette which have appeared in paper editions. With the caveat that there is plenty of latitude, I’d suggest reading them as follows:

Read Gazette I after you’ve read 1632 and alongside Ring of Fire. Read Gazettes II and III alongside 1633 and 1634: The Baltic War, whenever you’re in the mood for short fiction. Do the same for Gazette IV, alongside the next three books in the sequence, 1634: The Ram Rebellion, 1634: The Galileo Affair and 1634: The Bavarian Crisis. Then read Gazette V after you’ve read Ring of Fire II, since my story in Gazette V is something of a direct sequel to my story in the Ring of Fire volume. You can read Gazette V alongside 1635: The Cannon Law and 1635: The Dreeson Incident whenever you’re in the mood for short fiction. Gazette VI can be read thereafter, along with the next batch of novels recommended.

I’d recommend reading Grantville Gazette VII any time after you’ve read 1636: The Cardinal Virtues. And you can read Grantville Gazette VIII any time thereafter as well.

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And… that’s it, as of now. There are a lot more volumes coming.

For those of you who dote on lists, here it is. But do keep in mind, when you examine this neatly ordered sequence, that the map is not the territory.

1632
Ring of Fire
1633
1634: The Baltic War

(Somewhere along the way, after you’ve finished 1632, read the stories and articles in the first three paper edition volumes of the Gazette.)

1634: The Ram Rebellion
1634: The Galileo Affair
1634: The Bavarian Crisis
1635: A Parcel of Rogues

(Somewhere along the way, read the stories and articles in the fourth paper edition volume of the Gazette.)

Ring of Fire II
1635: The Cannon Law
1635: The Dreeson Incident
1635: The Tangled Web
(by Virginia DeMarce)
(Somewhere along the way, read the stories in Gazette V.
1635: The Papal Stakes
1635: The Eastern Front
1636: The Saxon Uprising
Ring of Fire III
1636: The Kremlin Games
1637: The Volga Rules

(Somewhere along the way, read the stories in Gazette VI.)

1636: Commander Cantrell in the West Indies
1636: The Cardinal Virtues
1636: The Vatican Sanction
1635: Music and Murder
(by David Carrico—this is an e-book edition only)
1636: The Devil’s Opera
1636: Seas of Fortune
(by Iver Cooper)
1636: The Barbie Consortium (by Gorg Huff and Paula Goodlett—this is an e-book edition only)
1636: The Viennese Waltz
 
(Somewhere along the way, read the stories in Gazette VII and Gazette VIII.)
Ring of Fire IV
1636: The Chronicles of Dr. Gribbleflotz
1636: The Ottoman Onslaught
1637: The Polish Maelstrom
1636: Mission to the Mughals
1636: The China Venture 

Eric Flint
March 2019

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274 Responses to 1632 series reading order

  1. Jim Hankey says:

    Loved The Cardinal Virtues and am wondering when the sequel will be published and what it’s title will be. I’m on tenterhooks to know the fates of Gaston and the infant Louis! I’ve read almost everything Grantville-related. Loved this one quite a bit. Please, more France!

  2. Wes Dickson says:

    This is a question not a comment. Where does “1635: The wars for the Rhine” Fit into the reading order?

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Wes,

      Pardon me for presuming to answer on Eric’s behalf, but I believe I know the answer to this question.

      In my opinion, 1635: The Wars for the Rhine should be read immediately after 1635: A Parcel of Rogues.

      However, Eric is the final authority on this matter. If he says different, then of course he’s right.

      Mike

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  3. Charlyne DeMonnin says:

    I would like to know more regarding Noel Stull and Janos, Denise Beasly, Judith Wendell, Ron and Missy Stone.

  4. Mark Cope says:

    I have a question!

    In which book or story did the state of Tryol enter the United States of Europe. I missed that story and want to read it. Thank You for your help.

    Mark cope

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Hi,

      The story you’re looking for is “An Uneasy Kind of Peace” by Virginia DeMarce. It was published in six parts in the Grantville Gazette e-zine, issues 52-57.

      I have heard rumors that it might be published soon as a novel by Ring of Fire Press, but I can’t say when it might come out.

      Mike

  5. Bill Williams (Bill in Boulder) says:

    As a fan of the series I would find a concordance helpful in following the various characters through the stories. Has/will/might this be done? Bill in Boulder

  6. James Johnson says:

    Pretty soon the flowchart is going to need a new category for Asian set novels.

  7. Chris Chivers says:

    Any chance of updating the flowchart to include the 3 Ring Of Fire Press paper editions plus the forthcoming titles please.

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      James,

      I can’t say when Eric will be able to publish an updated version of his Reading Order flowchart, but I doubt it will be soon, in light of his recent health issues.

      For what it’s worth, I have created such a flowchart, although it is of my own design, rather than Eric’s. It includes all of the 163x novels and anthologies from Baen Books, as well as the Ring of Fire anthologies and the paper editions of the Grantville Gazette (but not the e-zines). It also includes all of the Ring of Fire Press fiction titles published so far, as well as all of the upcoming titles from Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press. It includes explanatory notes, and is completely consistent with the Reading Order Eric laid out in January 2016.

      I posted a link to the the first version of it in a comment in this thread in June 2016. It was fairly crude, but Eric said he liked it, and he pointed out a couple of errors and even made suggestions for improving it.

      Since then, I have continued to refine the design of my flowchart, and have kept it up to date. The latest version is complete, and up to date, as of 4 April 2017.

      My flowchart can be downloaded here.

      This is a permanent link. The very latest version of my flowchart will always be available for download at this address.

      I hope you find it helpful.

      Mike

      • Chris Chivers says:

        Many thanks for the updated reading order flowchart, Mike. If I could make a suggestion, should there be a connection between ‘Essen Defiant’ and ‘1635: The Wars for the Rhine’ as they contain a lot of the same characters and it seems to be a continuing storyline.

        I assume that the titles shaded in grey are due to be published in 2019, either by Baen or Ring of Fire Press. The only two titles that I have missing are ‘1636: The Barbie Consortium’ and ‘1635: Murder and Music’ as they are only available as an E Book.

        Otherwise an absolutely fantastic series and I can’t wait for the next one out in paper format.

        • Mike J Nagle says:

          Chris,

          It’s true that 1635: The Wars for the Rhine is related to Essen Steel and Essen Defiant. All three stories occur in the same region and some of same people are mentioned in all of them.

          However, 1635: The Wars for the Rhine is not a direct sequel to either of the Essen novels, and so does not lie in the same thread as the one they are in, so there is no direct connection shown in the flowchart.

          For what it’s worth, I have moved the box containing Wars for the Rhine to a point directly below Essen Defiant. The move does not affect the relationships shown in the flowchart, but the new position could be interpreted as implying a connection among the titles, although none is directly specified.

          Cheers.

          Mike

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Oops.

      I meant to address my reply to Chris, not James.

      Mike

  8. Doug Johnson says:

    Love these books.

    Suggestion – the order to read these books could/would be very helpful to those like myself that love this kind of fiction.

    Because . . . I almost stopped reading this series because I got lost in the chronology. Reading the front fly leaf and clicking on amazon.com links to rof books is a very poor way to figure what is happening with the books and which to buy.

    I’d love for others to be able to easily find the chronology and enjoy these wonderful books.

    Regards

    • Doug Johnson says:

      See above. In other words . . . post a link to this to this on the amazon.com page for Mr. Flint or something.

      Actually I’ll leave a link in the comments.

  9. Deborah Jones says:

    I have just finished 32 and 33 along with Ring of Fire #1 and Grantville Gazettes #s1,2,3. As a European / Medieval / Renaissance / Church History/ Theology major (3 degrees later). Not so much “modern” but I am 69 so have lived much of that). I am enjoying the entire series to date. I want to mention that I have very much enjoyed Gazettes 1,2,3 – most particularly Hobson’s Choice – in Seminary (Methodist) I also took Catholic and Luther theology. Now that I am attending a Reformed Presbyterian Church – I have & am learning about Calvin’s teachings. I also enjoyed Hell’s Fighters. Many of the monastic teachings have been relegated out of current theological teachings which is most unfortunate. Thank you for including that story. I have returned 1 & 2 to the library and so cannot remember titles of stories. I enjoy the personal nature of the stories and am having fun putting all that learning to good use now (finally, that is). PS: The e-mail is because I collect Peanuts (ie Snoopy – Charlie Brown …etc). I am not personally a nosy person snooping around – although with my graduate & undergrad studies, I have certainly snooped around the history departments!! Thank you for this opportunity.

  10. Deborah Jones says:

    Thank you for better maps in Bavarian Crisis. Also TUVM for the alphabetized cast of characters. Is there an integrated list with what book / story person is in?

    • Susnn Free says:

      I also would love a list that gives the appearances of various characters, particularly the musicians, the detectives, the commercial and the religious figures.

  11. #1. Thank you for reading order list. #2 Will there be a Ring of Fire V. #3. Is there a composite list of characters – perhaps online somewhere. That would help &&& be very nice.

  12. Melanie Stensrud says:

    Just finished The Kremlin Games and loved it! Can’t wait to find out what happens next. Do we get a sequel soon?

    • Eric Flint says:

      Yes. The title of the sequel is 1637: THE VOLGA RULES and it’s being published in February.

      • Mike J Nagle says:

        Eric,

        Thank you for the wonderful news!

        I have long been waiting anxiously for 1637: The Volga Rules, and this is the first time I’m hearing about a publication date.

        By the way, I hope you are feeling well.

        Mike

  13. Thanks for this article. I will also like to mention that it can always be hard when you find yourself in school and starting out to initiate a long credit score. There are many scholars who are merely trying to pull through and have a lengthy or beneficial credit history can be a difficult thing to have.

  14. Paul Clark says:

    I am a librarian trying to help our patrons by adding the recommended order into our library catalog. However, this list has not been updated in a while I am trying to understand where does the newer books such as 1636 The Vatican Sanctions fit in. Thanks for your help

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Paul,

      For what it’s worth, I have created a Reading-Order Flowchart of my own. It is not in the same format as Eric’s, but it serves the same purpose. It is fully up to date as of September 20, 2017.

      It contains all of the 163x titles from Baen Books, as well as the Ring of Fire anthologies and the paper editions of the Grantville Gazette (but not the e-zine editions). It also contains all of the Ring of Fire Press titles as well, and all of the forthcoming titles. It is fully compliant with Eric’s reading order.

      The flowchart can be downloaded here.

      This link will always point to the latest version. I have posted this link a few times earlier in this thread, for what it’s worth, and they also point to the latest version.

      I “published” the first version of the flowchart in June 2016, and have kept it up to date continuously since then. Eric has seen it, and has said that he likes it. He has also given me helpful advice and pointed out a couple of errors.

      Please feel free to use it to update your library’s catalog, and to print it out and distribute copies to your patrons. I only ask that you only distribute unaltered copies.

      I hope you find it helpful.

      Mike

      • Brian says:

        It is very helpful. In fact, it’s enough so that I urge you to consider a web address shortener like TinyURL to make it easier to share. After all, while “here’s the link” works well enough in online situations, it’s awkward when, for one completely random example chosen solely by chance and whim and certainly not directly inspired by actual events, one is standing in line for a convention panel and happens to get into a relevant conversation and has to stutter out “um…and you can find the order online at…er…uh…well, it’s out there.”

  15. Thomas Wm. Hamilton says:

    Love the series and absolutely intimidated at the research involved to get all these historical figures approximately correct, having done a time travel novel (1 only!) myself. But one historical error no downtimer would have made: Galileo did not invent the telescope, Hannes Lippershey did. And while few at the time knew it, Galileo was beaten in using the telescope to study the sky by 3.5 months by an Englishman, Thomas Harriot

  16. David Segsworth says:

    The boxed set (the first one, anyway)

    1632
    1633
    1634: The Baltic War
    1635: A Parcel of Rogues

    I had to make my own box, of course.

  17. Kim Landers says:

    What book continues the 1636 The Ottoman Onslaught?Thank You!

  18. Bob Loya says:

    The Ottoman Onslaught is noted on this list, even tho not yet published or written. Where does 1636 Mission to the Mughals fit? Just finished and loved it like all the books in the 1632 series. Also will there be a sequel to Mission to the Mughals? And if so, when?

    PS: Have been a fan of this series since the first in the series: 1632. Interesting concept and both well written and conceived.

    • Eric Flint says:

      1636: The Ottoman Onslaught was published more than a year ago, in January 2017. I don’t know yet if there will be a sequel to 1636: Mission to the Mughals, but it’s likely.

  19. David Freitag says:

    Just finished Mission to the Mughals and enjoyed it very much. I’ve visited India and the Taj so I could picture the wheres of the final fight very well.

    One frustration. From context, there has to be a story chronicling Salim and Baharam Khan’s earlier visit to Europe. What is it, in what anthology is it posted? I’ve been doing some digging and it isn’t easy to find.

    Could you include a short note, something like “For previous appearances of character X, see Story Y in anthology Z? Maybe in the Cast of Characters list.

  20. Lhug says:

    Hi !

    Althought I’m french and the french aren’t very sympathetic in this series, I have to say I really enjoy this series. I have just finished The Galileo Affair and I started A Bavarian crisis right after. May I suggest something about using french in The Galileo Affair, even if no changes can be made ?
    Never a frenchman would have said “Seigneur le Comte” speaking to or about le Comte d’Avaux. He would say: “Monsieur le Comte” or “Monseigneur” if he speaks to him. And he would say “le comte d’Avaux”, “Monseigneur le comte d’Avaux” (more respectful) or “d’Avaux” (less respectful or use by a superior, a duke, a cardinal or the King), if he speaks about him. This remark works for a duc, a vicomte, a marquis, of course.
    Nobody has never thought about a french edition ?

  21. Russell Powledge says:

    I really enjoyed the Commander Cantrell in the West Indies novel. Is there another novel in work about Cantrell’s adventure’s in the new world? Also, are there any short stories about the search for oil in America or Trinidad?

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Russell,

      There is a sequel to 1636: Commander Cantrell in the West Indies in the works. It will be a sequel to , and its working title is 1637: No Peace Beyond the Line.

      As far as I know, it is still in the process of being written, so I can’t make any prediction about when it will actually be published.

      I am not aware of any other stories about the search for oil in the New World, but, for what it’s worth, the novel “Stretching Out,” which is contained within 1636: Seas of Fortune, does cover the search for rubber. It is, in my opinion, an excellent read.

      Mike

      • Gary Vandegrift says:

        Mike, thanks so much for creating and sharing the RoF Reading Order Flowchart! I’ve downloaded it so I can refer to it as books come out :)

        You might want to include it at the end of each of your posts (like a signature), as some people won’t have read all of the posts like I did, and find it earlier in the thread.

        Gary

        • Mike J Nagle says:

          Gary,

          I am pleased that you like my flowchart and find it useful.

          For what it’s worth, I have also created several maps of different parts of the world of the Ring of Fire.

          I like your idea of creating a signature with a download link to my flowchart. I am adding that signature to this message. A link to the flowchart is there, as well as one to a page where all my maps can be viewed and downloaded.

          I hope this works out.

          Mike

          ************************************************
          Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

          I have also created several large-scale maps related to the world of the Ring of Fire Series. They can be viewed and downloaded from my Maps Page at 1632.org.
          (1632.org belongs to Rick Boatright, who graciously hosts my maps at his website. While you are at it, check out the rest of 1632.org. There’s a lot of other cool stuff there.)

          • Rich Smith says:

            Mike J Nagle – Your Flowchart should be the standard for any new reader to the Ring of Fire.
            I first discovered it via the Assiti Shards area on David Weber’s Forums (You may wish to update the links there also.) I would have certainly gotten lost if not for it’s existence. The RoF Press entries are especially useful.

            Please continue to keep it as up to date as possible, for all our sakes.

            Thanks!

            • Mike J Nagle says:

              Rich,

              I am pleased that you like my flowchart.

              For what it’s worth, I had already added links to the latest version of the flowchart to the end of the first message in the Flowchart thread of the Assiti Shards forum. These links always point to the latest version.

              By the way, I just updated the flowchart again. Check it out.

              Mike

              ************************************************
              Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

              I have also created several large-scale maps related to the world of the Ring of Fire Series. They can be viewed and downloaded from my Maps Page at 1632.org.
              (1632.org belongs to Rick Boatright, who graciously hosts my maps at his website. While you are at it, check out the rest of 1632.org. There’s a lot of other cool stuff there.)

  22. Bob says:

    Is there any talk of a movie or TV series? 30 novels could make it for years as a TV series.

  23. Marcella says:

    always i used to read smaller content which also clear their motive,
    and that is also happening with this paragraph which I am reading at this place.

  24. Rob Vaughn says:

    I am only 3 books (1632/Ring of Fire/1633) into the series, but am LOVING it. I really appreciated this Reading Order list, as I have picked up a number of the other books in the series, but do not have them all.

    My suggestion/request is that someone be “officially” given the ongoing task of updating this list whenever new books are released. Besides the newer books listed above, I have recently found on Amazon a number of Ring of Fire Press releases, and it is not necessarily obvious where these fit into the overall timeline/picture.

    Please give this awesome series the great support it deserves and update the Reading Order list every time a new book in the series is released.

    Thank you!

  25. Rob Vaughn says:

    Oops! A follow-up to my post above . . . as is typical, I hadn’t finished perusing the comments before I made my post, and I just saw/reviewed the flowchart posted by Mike J. Nagel (AWESOME job!!). Thanks for the very helpful support of this series . . .

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Rob,

      For what it’s worth, my Reading Order Flowchart is not official. It is only a project which I took upon myself. I do my best, however, to keep it as accurate and up-to-date as possible.

      In fact, I just added Letters from Gronow and The Persistence of Dreams, both released by Ring of Fire Press in this past week.

      The link to the flowchart can be found below.

      Mike

      ************************************************
      Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

      I have also created several large-scale maps related to the world of the Ring of Fire Series. They can be viewed and downloaded from my Maps Page at 1632.org.
      (1632.org belongs to Rick Boatright, who graciously hosts my maps at his website. While you are at it, check out the rest of 1632.org. There’s a lot of other cool stuff there.)

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  27. Bruce Wade says:

    Anxious to see what happens to Larry while looking for Oil. Not unusual I guess, But I find that my favorite Authors are often other VN Vets. Or Vets in general, when doing Military SF. Seems the ‘taste’ is right when written by someone who has ‘seen the elephant’.

  28. Charley Foster says:

    Eric-
    Love the series! But then, who doesn’t? Anyway, just finished “Mission to the Mughals” and hope for the next book on that! Gotta’ say, though, you should have something about developing a better firearms policy; licensing tech for black powder guns (like the 1873 Colt Peacemaker, single-shot Rolling Block rifle. Not to mention some of the lower tech stuff that directly preceded those. Okay, GunsRMe. But consider all the stuff that would go with introducing that kind of tech. Even if a talented gunsmith could copy a 9mm pistol, he couldn’t manufacture them, not even a 1911. But an 1873? Easily within the reach of someone who could make a decent flintlock. You would have to export measurement tech, machining, factory design, etc. Never-the-less, could make a great intro to diplomacy, not to mention trade.

  29. Paul M says:

    Having lived on the island of Mallorca and visited the Bellver I enjoyed the jailbreak adventure. I’d like to reread that book but can’t for the life of me remember or figure out which book that is. My library doesn’t have all the book in the series but they did have the one with this in it. Can anyone tell me which book it is? Thanks.

  30. Eric Flint says:

    You novel you want is 1635: THE PAPAL STAKES, which I co-authored with Chuck Gannon.

  31. Shadrack kipruto bett says:

    1635: tangled web , was quite good, however Friedrich Württemberger need not have died really.

  32. Tom Howard says:

    In March Mike mentioned a sequel to Commander Cantrell. Any info on how that is going?

  33. Paul Clark says:

    Is it possible to update this webpage so I know the correct recommended reading order with some of the newer titles.

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Paul,

      Updating the webpage may be impractable (and not within my purview), but you can use my Reading Order Flowchart, the link for which can be found below. It is shows all Baen Books and Eric Flint’s Ring of Fire Press titles, as well as a few titles that have been announced but not yet released.

      It is not the same format as Eric’s, but it serves the same purpose. It is also up to date, and as complete as I can make it.

      The link is permanent. As I update the flowchart, I save the newer revisions at the same address. Since I first created it, back in June, 2016, It has never been out of date for longer than a week.

      I hope you like it.

      Mike

      ************************************************
      Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

  34. Mike J Nagle says:

    Paul,

    Rather than waiting on the webpage to be updated, you can use my Reading Order Flowchart (link below). It is a different format than Eric’s flowchart, but serves the same purpose. It includes every title published by Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press so far, and a few titles that have been announced, but not yet released.

    I keep it up to date, and complete, and update it as each new title is published.

    The link is permanent. That is, it always points to the latest version.

    I hope you like it.

    Mike

    ************************************************
    Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

  35. Amy says:

    I checked out the flowchart; Does anyone know what 1636: Calabar’s War will be about? Or when an announcement about it will be released?

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Amy,

      I don’t really know much about 1636: Calabar’s War, beyond its title.

      I can tell you that it will be written by R. E. Waters and Charles E. Gannon. It will be set in Brazil, and I’m guessing it will concern a resistance by the Portuguese in Brazil, led by Domingos Fernandes Calabar, and the Dutch, who tried to take over a large part of Portuguese Brazil around the period of about 1600-1635.

      Beyond that, I have nothing.

      Sorry.

      Mike

  36. LJ says:

    I am reading and enjoying the Chronicles of Dr. GribbleFlotz, but it would be cool if either in future print editions of The Grantville Gazette or additional novels more mentions of how uptime science, technological and medical knowledge could be addressed. Will downtime astronomers discover Uranus ahead of schedule? Will knowing about Anton Van Leeuwanhoek’s invention of microscopes, spur a microscope industry and even downtime medical knowledge of some germs/bacteria in the Low Countries/Spanish Netherlands. I would Archduchess Isabella, Don Fernando and Maria Anna might find that knowledge would spur them to create a microscope industry and better Dutch and Belgian medical schools. They might even discover certain types of cells and single celled organisms and make microbiological discoveries ahead of schedule.

  37. Ryan Wagner says:

    First of all just wanted to thank Eric Flint and all the other amazing authors who make this world come to life. Secondly I have just finished the Kremlin games and its sequel the volga rules and loved them both. I understand that the volga rules is fairly new but I’ve got to ask if there is a further book for the Russian line in the works. Again thank you for your wonderful work, it’s my new favorite series and I can’t wait for the Polish malestorm to be released.

    • Eric Flint says:

      There isn’t a sequel to 1637: THE VOLGA RULES “in the works” in the sense of a book written or a contract signed for a book or even a sketchy outline. The reason is simple: It would be premature to write a sequel to VOLGA RULES before the rest of the series catches up, or you’d have the tail wagging the dog. We need at least two more “mainline” novels to come out before we’d have enough broad parameters to know where to go with a third Russian novel. The first of those mainline novels is 1637: THE POLISH MAELSTROM, which is coming out two months from now.

      And it’s not as if my partners, Gorh Huff and Paula Goodlett, are twiddling their thumbs. We recently finished the sequel to THE ALEXANDER INHERITANCE and we’re about to start the sequel to THE DEMONS OF PARIS. Leaving that aside, Gorg and Paula have novels of their own which we’re publishing through Ring of Fire Press. Two of them have come out already — PANDORA’S CREW and WARSPELL — and the sequels to both of them are underway.

      That said, unless the Ring of Fire series collapses altogether, which seems quite unlikely, there will certainly be a sequel to VOLGA RULES at some point. I just can’t tell you when yet.

  38. Ryan Wagner says:

    Thank you so much for replying so fast. I also completely understand your reasoning, I suppose that I am just getting ahead of myself in my excitement in finding such a wonderful series that’s right up my alley. I will be waiting with anticipation for the new releases in this series and look forward to the future of these works that I can read again and again and still find something to enjoy. Thank again for all the hard work in creating this series, as well as the other wonderful people who have made it a reality.

  39. Guardian says:

    Ah, thanks for this. So hard to keep up with once you’re in deep.

  40. Martha says:

    I really enjoy reading the 1632 series but the list hasn’t been updated in a quite a while. Could someone please update the order of reading list? There are new books out there but I want to be sure I’m reading them in the correct order. Thank you.

  41. Tweeky says:

    Eric, in regards to the new Assiti shards series – “The Alexander Inheritance” is there a forum or sub-forum for it over at Baen’s Bar?

    • Eric Flint says:

      No. If you want to discuss something about that series, just raise it in 1632 Tech. In the unlikely event someone hassles you about doing so, just say I said so and blow them a virtual raspberry.

  42. Madeline says:

    Problem. I cannot find The Polish Maelstrom’s kindle page. I don’t have room in my apartment for another hardcover book, and I didn’t pre order it because I assumed I could get it on my Kindle, why is it not on Kindle yet : (

  43. Tamara Wiens says:

    Hi Eric,

    Thanks for the list. I am wondering about a book that you mention in the Author’s Note to “1637: The Polish Maelstrom”, namely “1636: The Atlantic Encounter”. This title doesn’t appear in the above list, nor is it listed as part of the series on the Baen website.

    Grateful for any light you can shed on this.

    Tamara

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Tamara,

      1636: The Atlantic Encounter will be a book about Eastern North America along the Atlantic Seaboard of the present-day United States. It is being written by Eric Flint and Walter H. Hunt.

      For any details beyond that, I can only speculate. I would guess that the Dutch, English, and French in North America, along with the Iroquois and perhaps the Danes, will be involved in the story—but don’t hold me to that.

      The book was first announced over ten year ago with the working title 1636: Drums Along the Mohawk.

      As I understand it, the first draft was completed some time ago, but the story is currently being extensively rewritten to harmonize with Herb Sakalaucks’ his upcoming Fire on the Frontier. I have also heard rumors that there may be some other unspecified stories that will need to be written and published first.

      Needless to say, I doubt that anyone, even the authors, has any idea as to when the finished novel will be published. Personally, I hope it will be soon; but I have been hoping for a long time now.

      I hope this answer helps you.

      Mike

      • Mike J Nagle says:

        Tamara,

        I meant to say that The Atlantic Encounter was being rewritten to harmonize with Herb’s already-published The Danish Scheme, 1635—The Battle for Newfoundland, and his upcoming Fire on the Frontier.

        I’m not sure exactly how it happened, but the first two titles didn’t make it into my previous reply.

        Mike

  44. Christian Darley says:

    Hello there,
    this is just a big Thumbs Up from Germany for keeping this great series up and running, especially to Eric but also to all other authors and contributors .
    An additional thank you goes to Mike who tries to reduce some workload from Eric by answering questions here and keeping his flow-chart current.

    Love the series and hope to read many more from it!

    Thanks
    Christian

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  46. Tom Howard says:

    Is a sequel for Commander Cantrell in the works?

    Also, is there any way to search these posts?

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Tom,

      As a matter of fact, Eric Flint has announced a sequel to 1636: Commander Cantrell in the West Indies. Its working title is 1637: No Peace beyond the Line. It will also be by Eric Flint and Charles E. Gannon.

      I have not sure how far along the writing of No Peace is, or even if it’s definitely been started, but Eric implied that it won’t be long, relatively speaking. Considering Baen Books’ publishing schedule, I would estimate that it might come out some time in 2021 or 2022, but that is only a guess.

      I wish I could be more specific, but all I can say is that I expect it to come out sometime after 1637: The Adriatic Decision (previously known informally as 1637: Admiral Simpson in the Mediterranean). I expect that Adriatic Decision might come out in 2020, but Baen does not take publication advice from me.

      Cheers,

      Mike

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Tom,

      By the way, there is no automated way to search through these posts, as far as I know.

      Sorry,

      Mike

      ************************************************
      Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

      I have also created several large-scale maps related to the world of the Ring of Fire Series. They can be viewed and downloaded from my Maps Page at 1632.org.
      (1632.org belongs to Rick Boatright, who graciously hosts my maps at his website. While you are at it, check out the rest of 1632.org. There’s a lot of other cool stuff there.)

  47. Ryan Wagner says:

    Ok, so this is going to be a bit of a rant. Involving information from several of the books in the series, so there will be some spoilers, anyone who has not caught up to the series, please stop here

    Anyways, so I have recently been rereading 1636 Mission to the Mughals, and while reading it a thought occurred to me. In the polish malestorm there was the beginnings of an invasion of the ottoman empire, and one of the main questions was what would the safavids do afterword. The two main options considered was that they would reopen the war against the ottomans, or they would go after the Uzbeks. My question was, well the mughals were on the verge, or at that time in a civil war due to the early death of Shah jahan. It was known, and mentioned in the mughal book, that the safavids wanted mughal territories in Afghanistan, so might that be something that is addressed in a sequel to the mission to the mughals, or a kinda plot twist that adds a favor to the book that addresses the said invasion. Or even perhaps the civil war in russia leading to the safavids going north. It intrigues me that a possible sequel may focus on the safavids, without any uptimers to interfere, where the court struggles in making a decision, even possibly even an extended branch series that interconnects the mughal series, the russian series, this theoretical new series, all leading up to a “Big one” where they all crash into the main line when Mike Stearns actually invades. Probably just a bit of fantasy on my part, and eric flint, his coauthors, as well as baen books itself most likely have most of the next several books planned out, at least to some extent. But this was something I just had to put in writing and see what anyone else thinks. Thanks for listening to my rant.

  48. Eric Fraley says:

    So I read 1632 a few years ago at the recommendation of my father. I had gotten him reading alternate history / speculative fiction (Turtledove and Stirling, mostly) and he found this series on his own.

    I must say, I’ve really loved what I’ve read (6 books total), even if there have been a few books where I’m just not that interested in the specific characters. There were two others I started but couldn’t finish. Out of respect to the authors I will not name them. To me, the best books have been those that focus on Stearns, Jeff & Gretchen, Eddie Cantrell, John Simpson, and the Mackeys.

    I have read: 1632, 1633, The Baltic War, The Eastern Front, Commander Cantrell, and just finished A Parcel of Rogues. I would love to read more about Cantrell, or the further adventures of Cromwell and his bosom buddy, but as I understand it those aren’t out yet.

    Anyone on this thread want to point me toward my next read? I have the flowcharts and all that, but I’m not too hung up on chronology… I care more about the storylines and characters mentioned above.

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Eric,

      I would recommend that you read 1635: The Eastern Front next, and 1636: The Saxon Uprising immediately after that. Those two books are actually a single long novel that simply grew too big to fit into a single printed volume. After that, read 1636: The Ottoman Onslaught, and then 1637: The Polish Maelstrom.

      In my flowchart (link below) there is one thread that is marked with a wide line, while all the other threads are marked with narrow lines. That is the “Main Line.” The Main Line is the backbone of the series, and consists of all the novels that Eric Flint wrote by himself. (Okay, Eric did write 1633 and 1634: The Baltic War with David Weber, but don’t let that make you miss the point.)

      If you’re not worried about strict chronological order, you should read all of the Main Line stories first, and then read the stories in other threads as you go.
      After you read the stories in the Main Line thread, the order that you read the other threads is not so important, but you should read each story in each thread in chronological order. This will not be hard to do, because most of the other threads are only one story long, anyway.

      If you like, I can post a summary of the various threads in the series, if my flowchart is insufficiently clear.

      Mike

      ************************************************
      Check out my Ring of Fire Reading Order Flowchart. It serves the same purpose as Eric Flint’s, but is different in format. I continually keep it up to date and as complete as possible; the flowchart includes all Baen Books and Ring of Fire Press titles, including titles announced or in progress, but not yet published. It can be downloaded here.

      I have also created several large-scale maps related to the world of the Ring of Fire Series. They can be viewed and downloaded from my Maps Page at 1632.org.
      (1632.org belongs to Rick Boatright, who graciously hosts my maps at his website. While you are at it, check out the rest of 1632.org. There’s a lot of other cool stuff there.)

  49. Eric Flint says:

    You should read the next three mainline novels, all of which focus on Mike Stearns, Jeff & Gretchen, et. al. They’re all written by me as the solo author. Those are:

    1636: THE SAXON UPRISING
    1636: THE OTTOMAN ONSLAUGHT
    1637: THE POLISH MAELSTROM

    Chuck Gannon and I will be starting the sequel to 1636: COMMANDER CANTRELL IN THE WEST INDIES in a couple months or so. The title will be 1637: NO PEACE BEYOND THE LINE.

    • Eric Fraley says:

      Ok, I will stick with the ‘mainline’ books for now, and let them take me where they will. While I have encountered a few ‘down-time’ characters that I like (Cromwell, Christian IV, and Ulrik come to mind immediately), my favorites are pretty much all the up-timers that I feel like I can relate to.

      Wow, awesome, Eric Flint responded to me! And thank you too, Mike Nagel, I see how active you are on here, helping everyone.

      One follow-up question… if I want to read more about Admiral Simpson, where is the best place to go? There has probably not been a better part (for me anyway) than Admiral Simpson breaking the Danish fleets and having Overgaard march into King Christian’s hall with Lt. Chomse. I laughed and also found it to be, well, an awesome move. And of course I laughed out loud when he was dressing down Cantrell at the end of that one.

      • Mike J Nagle says:

        Eric,

        As far as I know, no further stories about Admiral Simpson have been published after 1634: The Baltic War.

        However, I am pretty sure that he (Simpson) and Mike Stearns will be important characters in 1637: The Adriatic Decision, whenever it comes out. I’m pretty sure that The Adriatic Decision will be the next Main Line novel, but it will not be a direct sequel to <The Polish Maelstrom. Instead, it will be a parallel branching thread of the Main Line, but it will involve the main characters from the other Main Line novels.

        I wish I could tell you when The Adriatic Decision will be finished and published, but I really haven’t got clue.

        For what it’s worth, it can’t come out soon enough to suit me, but we have no choice but to wait until it’s finished…

        Cheers,

        Mike

  50. Eric Flint says:

    Admiral Simpson appears in a couple of novels after 1634: THE BALTIC WAR. He figures fairly prominently in 1636: THE SAXON UPRISING and has a minor role in 1636; THE OTTOMAN ONSLAUGHT.

    He will be a major character in 1637; THE ADRIATIC DECISION. That book will actually be a direct sequel to 1637: THE POLISH MAELSTROM, but will focus on Mike Stearns and Rebecca Abrabanel. I don’t know yet how much (if any) it will carry forward the Polish storyline. The novel will also serve in part as a direct sequel to 1637: NO PEACE BEYOND THE LINE, which Chuck and I will start writing in a month or so.

    • Mike J Nagle says:

      Eric,

      Oops. My mistake.

      A couple of years ago, you said that the Main Line would fork after 1636: The Ottoman Onslaught, and I understood this to mean the fork would be immediately after Ottoman Onslaught, but I guess I got that wrong. I presume the two forks will re-merge somewhere farther down the line.

      As far as Admiral Simpson’s role in 1636: The Saxon Uprising goes, I didn’t really remember it as that significant. My bad.

      Now, I guess I’ll have to fix my flowchart to match what you have said. Stay tuned.

      Thanks for correcting my error.

      Mike

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