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		<title>By: robert</title>
		<link>http://www.ericflint.net/index.php/2010/03/17/mission-of-honor-snippet-15/comment-page-1/#comment-182486</link>
		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry that I said the word and the discussion began again.  Prolong infodump 1:
http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/25/1
Prolong infodump 2:
http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/252/1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry that I said the word and the discussion began again.  Prolong infodump 1:<br />
<a href="http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/25/1" rel="nofollow">http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/25/1</a><br />
Prolong infodump 2:<br />
<a href="http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/252/1" rel="nofollow">http://infodump.thefifthimperium.com/entry/Harrington/252/1</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Roth</title>
		<link>http://www.ericflint.net/index.php/2010/03/17/mission-of-honor-snippet-15/comment-page-1/#comment-182476</link>
		<dc:creator>John Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@14 TimC
@15 Drak Bibliophile

We can, however, make a guess about Albrecht. Since prolong is relatively recent -- less than a century, I believe -- Albrecht himself is either not a prolong recipient or he&#039;s less than 150 years old to have been able to get first generation prolong (and probably less than that.) Equally, he&#039;s unlikely to be over 200 because Mesan life extension probably wasn&#039;t that good back then.

I doubt very much that he&#039;s a clone of Leonard Detwiller, because I doubt that Leonard would have been able to keep up with the star lines. If so, he (and his clones) don&#039;t share the Mesan alpha and star line life extension.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@14 TimC<br />
@15 Drak Bibliophile</p>
<p>We can, however, make a guess about Albrecht. Since prolong is relatively recent &#8212; less than a century, I believe &#8212; Albrecht himself is either not a prolong recipient or he&#8217;s less than 150 years old to have been able to get first generation prolong (and probably less than that.) Equally, he&#8217;s unlikely to be over 200 because Mesan life extension probably wasn&#8217;t that good back then.</p>
<p>I doubt very much that he&#8217;s a clone of Leonard Detwiller, because I doubt that Leonard would have been able to keep up with the star lines. If so, he (and his clones) don&#8217;t share the Mesan alpha and star line life extension.</p>
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		<title>By: Drak Bibliophile</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drak Bibliophile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what David Weber said, prolong *adds* an addition two centuries to a person&#039;s normal lifespan.

IIRC it was mentioned in _Torch Of Freedom_ that one of the Alphas can expect the same lifespan without prolong that a &#039;normal&#039; can expect with prolong.  

From the wording, I believe that prolong *will* extend an Alpha&#039;s lifespan as well as a normal&#039;s lifespan.

As for Albrecht Detweiler, there has been no mention of his age nor is there any text evidence that he is a clone of a now deceased Detweiler.

Desested</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what David Weber said, prolong *adds* an addition two centuries to a person&#8217;s normal lifespan.</p>
<p>IIRC it was mentioned in _Torch Of Freedom_ that one of the Alphas can expect the same lifespan without prolong that a &#8216;normal&#8217; can expect with prolong.  </p>
<p>From the wording, I believe that prolong *will* extend an Alpha&#8217;s lifespan as well as a normal&#8217;s lifespan.</p>
<p>As for Albrecht Detweiler, there has been no mention of his age nor is there any text evidence that he is a clone of a now deceased Detweiler.</p>
<p>Desested</p>
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		<title>By: TimC</title>
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		<dc:creator>TimC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@13
Talking of prolong &gt; I know the various systems (1st 2nd 3rd generation)are usable at different ages, and slow aging at increasingly early stages. But does anyone yet know how long a &#039;prolong&#039; recipient will live? Is Detweiler many years old or just a clone of the original family member?  Perhaps I had better go back and read the whole series again before &#039;Mission&#039; comes out!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@13<br />
Talking of prolong &gt; I know the various systems (1st 2nd 3rd generation)are usable at different ages, and slow aging at increasingly early stages. But does anyone yet know how long a &#8216;prolong&#8217; recipient will live? Is Detweiler many years old or just a clone of the original family member?  Perhaps I had better go back and read the whole series again before &#8216;Mission&#8217; comes out!</p>
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		<title>By: robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 06:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@12 Anthony, I agree that OB will be a success and will also be a complete surprise and, based on the book&#039;s cover and a snerker that DW put on the bar many months ago, it will do some very, very serious damage to life and orbiting manufacturing.  

I do not agree with the rest of your speculations, except that Crandall will get well and truly defeated by Henke at Spindle.  Beyond that, I think there will be a peace treaty with Haven, and based on the Two Spies&#039; information, especially how Haven was manipulated, Prichard will ally with the SEM to face down whatever is coming from the SL (think the mysterious Filaretta).  Whether that battle is in this book or not remains to be seen.  It also remains to be seen (I suspect over the next umpteen books) what the allies figure out about the MA and its allies, like Mannerheim, what happens with the Torch wormhole, who else besides Grayson joins the new good guys alliance, like Beowulf, Torch, Maya, Erewhon, and ???.  

So if you are no longer young (read old), pray for &quot;prolong.&quot;   Many years of books to come.
r</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@12 Anthony, I agree that OB will be a success and will also be a complete surprise and, based on the book&#8217;s cover and a snerker that DW put on the bar many months ago, it will do some very, very serious damage to life and orbiting manufacturing.  </p>
<p>I do not agree with the rest of your speculations, except that Crandall will get well and truly defeated by Henke at Spindle.  Beyond that, I think there will be a peace treaty with Haven, and based on the Two Spies&#8217; information, especially how Haven was manipulated, Prichard will ally with the SEM to face down whatever is coming from the SL (think the mysterious Filaretta).  Whether that battle is in this book or not remains to be seen.  It also remains to be seen (I suspect over the next umpteen books) what the allies figure out about the MA and its allies, like Mannerheim, what happens with the Torch wormhole, who else besides Grayson joins the new good guys alliance, like Beowulf, Torch, Maya, Erewhon, and ???.  </p>
<p>So if you are no longer young (read old), pray for &#8220;prolong.&#8221;   Many years of books to come.<br />
r</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say that OB is a success hurting Manticore when they can least afford it.  Then the League will attack them, after Crandall runs into her disaster, making it appear to all observers that the League is supportintg Manpower&#039;s (Mesa alignment&#039;s) war against Manticore, after the Return of Zuilwicki and Cachet of course.  This leads to fracturing of the League.

As for the League attack on Manticore Eighth fleet will eat it for lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say that OB is a success hurting Manticore when they can least afford it.  Then the League will attack them, after Crandall runs into her disaster, making it appear to all observers that the League is supportintg Manpower&#8217;s (Mesa alignment&#8217;s) war against Manticore, after the Return of Zuilwicki and Cachet of course.  This leads to fracturing of the League.</p>
<p>As for the League attack on Manticore Eighth fleet will eat it for lunch.</p>
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		<title>By: Thirdbase</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thirdbase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now the question is:

Is the HMS Lodestone, the USS Ward, Private&#039;s Lockhard and Elliott, or Lt. Kermit Tyler?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now the question is:</p>
<p>Is the HMS Lodestone, the USS Ward, Private&#8217;s Lockhard and Elliott, or Lt. Kermit Tyler?</p>
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		<title>By: Sigh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sigh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t we already have a stumbling Destroyer at Hancock with those peep stealth observers... I don&#039;t think Manticore is going to be that lucky twice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t we already have a stumbling Destroyer at Hancock with those peep stealth observers&#8230; I don&#8217;t think Manticore is going to be that lucky twice.</p>
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		<title>By: John Roth</title>
		<link>http://www.ericflint.net/index.php/2010/03/17/mission-of-honor-snippet-15/comment-page-1/#comment-182443</link>
		<dc:creator>John Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Beware the lucky fool with a gun. He may be a fool, but he&#039;s still lucky, and he&#039;s got a gun.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Beware the lucky fool with a gun. He may be a fool, but he&#8217;s still lucky, and he&#8217;s got a gun.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NinjaKittens</title>
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		<dc:creator>NinjaKittens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 21:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My vote goes on Destroyer stumbling as well.</description>
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