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	<title>Comments on: STORM FROM THE SHADOWS &#8212; snippet 87</title>
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		<title>By: Mousekt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mousekt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buying into the new system; the only part of their old way of life they really value is their own power, and them being the planet (and leadership) that&#039;s the wedge for OFS could buy them into the new system, with their power preserved by the new order, instead of being given to the plebes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buying into the new system; the only part of their old way of life they really value is their own power, and them being the planet (and leadership) that&#8217;s the wedge for OFS could buy them into the new system, with their power preserved by the new order, instead of being given to the plebes.</p>
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		<title>By: Thirdbase</title>
		<link>http://www.ericflint.net/index.php/2009/01/07/storm-from-the-shadows-snippet-87/comment-page-1/#comment-104716</link>
		<dc:creator>Thirdbase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 11:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, reading this in snippets might have me a little lost, but exactly what is New Tuscany supposed to be getting out of this. Bringing in OFS will destroy their way of life just as quick, if not quicker than the Manties. 
 
Here&#039;s to some dead New Tuscans, killed by Mesans, and ex-Peeps. Probably just ex-Peeps as that would keep Mesa&#039;s hands clean.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, reading this in snippets might have me a little lost, but exactly what is New Tuscany supposed to be getting out of this. Bringing in OFS will destroy their way of life just as quick, if not quicker than the Manties. </p>
<p>Here&#039;s to some dead New Tuscans, killed by Mesans, and ex-Peeps. Probably just ex-Peeps as that would keep Mesa&#039;s hands clean.</p>
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		<title>By: arthur_piantado</title>
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		<dc:creator>arthur_piantado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing is, these New Tuscans are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Anisimovna is quoting Louis XV and his saying &quot;so long  as the revolution comes after I am dead, what of it?&quot; The thing is I think that the New Tuscans can cut a deal, or maybe just get out with their families and a few shiploads of loot. They sound like a third-world country&#039;s dictatorial oligarchs to me. Off course, they&#039;ll have to deal first with Manticore, then with O. F. S., THEN  with Mesa.  By this point they know too much  to keep them safe, and not enough to cut a deal with Manticore. These people are dead, dead, dead. And Mesa knows it. They are being set up, but they don&#039;t care, because they see the danger of revolt as greater than that of conquest. They are an inward looking culture, a little like the Monicans.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is, these New Tuscans are caught between the devil and the deep blue sea. Anisimovna is quoting Louis XV and his saying &quot;so long  as the revolution comes after I am dead, what of it?&quot; The thing is I think that the New Tuscans can cut a deal, or maybe just get out with their families and a few shiploads of loot. They sound like a third-world country&#039;s dictatorial oligarchs to me. Off course, they&#039;ll have to deal first with Manticore, then with O. F. S., THEN  with Mesa.  By this point they know too much  to keep them safe, and not enough to cut a deal with Manticore. These people are dead, dead, dead. And Mesa knows it. They are being set up, but they don&#039;t care, because they see the danger of revolt as greater than that of conquest. They are an inward looking culture, a little like the Monicans.</p>
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		<title>By: kingpaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 08:06:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really understading, yet, what they&#039;ll get out of it either. I&#039;m hoping in the next few snippets we&#039;ll see what the carrot for New Tuscany is. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m not really understading, yet, what they&#039;ll get out of it either. I&#039;m hoping in the next few snippets we&#039;ll see what the carrot for New Tuscany is.</p>
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		<title>By: 1JH</title>
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		<dc:creator>1JH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lapping of water indeed. Of course they are having trouble shipping. Its called competition. She is pointing to the sunset, blaming the Manties, and they are going to swallow it.  
 
On the other hand, I&#039;m not sure that I do. If OFS is really the ogre DW paints it to be, these people would have fallen in line. There is even a comment in the text to that effect. Even if they are extremists, acting for their own interests at the expense of everyone elses, this is taking selfishness to extremes, especially when she lays it out as baldly as this.  
 
J </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lapping of water indeed. Of course they are having trouble shipping. Its called competition. She is pointing to the sunset, blaming the Manties, and they are going to swallow it.  </p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#39;m not sure that I do. If OFS is really the ogre DW paints it to be, these people would have fallen in line. There is even a comment in the text to that effect. Even if they are extremists, acting for their own interests at the expense of everyone elses, this is taking selfishness to extremes, especially when she lays it out as baldly as this.  </p>
<p>J</p>
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		<title>By: kingpaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingpaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent question. I&#039;m in the process of re-reading that series. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent question. I&#039;m in the process of re-reading that series.</p>
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		<title>By: jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when are snippets for By Heresies Distressed coming out ?  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when are snippets for By Heresies Distressed coming out ?</p>
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